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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:45 am

How are the dollar values calculated in the Rankings section?

How many players? What is the salary cap?...etc.

Thanks.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:17 am

The dollar values are not derived based on a single league situation.

If we tried to use standard rotisserie league set up we would have to separate the AL and NL players completely as no standard rotisserie league combines them.

Our dollar values will get you in the ball park of your specific league but their real value is in showing how far apart players are from one another in the rankings, rather than just being listed.

Next year we will be launching a way for you to customize it to your specific league situation.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:49 am

Does the lack of quality in a position factor in to your dollar values?

It seems there are some overpriced outfielders and underpriced players at positions like 3B, SS, C, 2B.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:07 am

I asked that question and it seems that position doesn't make a difference.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:20 pm

It seems that position plays a huge importance. There is a big difference between the top 4 shortstops and the next group ... whereas there is not much difference between the top 4 outfielders and the next group.

Moderator Joined: Dec 11, 2003 Posts: 2165

THe $ values are based on that stats only, you decide whos vlaued more because of position.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:03 pm

adichiara wrote:

THe $ values are based on that stats only, you decide whos vlaued more because of position.

This is correct. We simply try to provide the value of that player's performance, regardless of the position played. If you have a player hit .310/100R/20HR/20SB/100RBI it doesn't matter what position it is, b/c that's going to have value to your team. Then we leave it up to you to formulate a draft plan and that includes factoring in the player's position and the depth at that position....

There's a couple reasons for this. One is that different leagues will create different levels of depth for a position than others. For example, a 10 team mixed league that requires two catchers and only three outfielders is going to play a premium for catchers and you'll need to draft accordingly. There are so many variations of leagues out there that it would be difficult to build a formula that could not only tell you that value of a player's performance respective to the scoring methods, but also modify that value based upon performance of that particular position league-wide.

We are looking into building more complex functions into our player rater and/or dollar values, but those are Long term projects and a ways off.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:54 pm

gunkdog wrote:

Does the lack of quality in a position factor in to your dollar values?

It seems there are some overpriced outfielders and underpriced players at positions like 3B, SS, C, 2B.

I think that at this point there is almost as much talent at 3B and SS as any other position. They really aren't behind OF. IMO, 1B, 2B, and C are the weakest positions now. There are so many good SP's, there are enought RP's to go around, 3B has some great young talent, and some solid vets, SS has about 6 guys in their primes that are as good as anybody else out there, OF is loaded with .300, 30, 30, 100, 100 talent guys.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:14 pm

1B is not a weak position at all. 1B is one of the strongest positions b/c a lot of people qualify/will qualify at 1B.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:18 pm

Matt wrote:

1B is not a weak position at all. 1B is one of the strongest positions b/c a lot of people qualify/will qualify at 1B.

Yeah, I shouldn't have said that it is weak, but I Personally think SS is stronger this year. 3B might not be quite as strong, but I think it is close also. Take the top 7-8 SS over the same at 1B. You just get more balance from SS's. They give similar power, but usually with better SB and R's.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:38 pm

And this is the game inside the game ... who is going to burn their money to get the good 3B or C or 2B or whatever you think is weak...

My favorite ... Acquire 2 of the top 3B or 2B ... then call out all the remaining excellant 3B and 2B early in the draft. Make the other owners use more money to get those players, so you have the Cash leftover to go after your needs.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:46 pm

There are all kinds of strategies. I usually just have player stats compared to their positional averages for fantasy starters and try to take the players that are the highest above those averages, taking into account what level player I would get in the next rounds based on different picks. In the end though, unless Soriano is there, I don't see myself taking a 2B in the first several rounds. At catcher, I don't think there is anybody that I would spend a higher than a third round pick on. 3B doesn't really have any stars, but there are a number of guys with .300, 30, 100, 100 potential.

Bat Boy Joined: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 7

It would be really helpful if you would include At-Bats and Innings Pitched in your projections. Thanks.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:22 am

I understand that it would be helpful to have at bats and innings pitched displayed. However that means we have to add two additional columns to what is already a cramped space on the projections page. At this time we will not be adding any additional information to the projections, although we do plan to redesign the entire projections page for next year in which it will be completely customizable and you can choose almost any categories you want to display as well as base the rankings on. However for those features we will all have to wait until next season.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:18 am

What about the ratio K-BB?